Commons:Deletion requests/File:Oshikura Manju drawing example 3 kids.png
Unused OOS AI image Dronebogus (talk) 14:55, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
Delete no COM:EDUSE. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 16:13, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
Keep - It is useful for illustrating a topic that might need illustrating. It is not in use because English Wikipedia has a no AI images policy. Commons doesn't have that policy from what I understand, and someone might want to educate about this concept and thus find this image useful. Is there a policy that all Commons AI images must be in use on a Wiki to be useful? Nesnad (talk) 06:52, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
- What topic? If you can’t even say what it illustrates it is obviously out of scope Dronebogus (talk) 10:38, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
- Dronebogus, I thought it was clear so didn't mention it. It illustrates 押し競饅頭, as it says in the file description. If you can't understand that, it's not my fault. The world isn't about everything needing to be in English. Last I checked Wikimedia Commons was not an English-only project. To play nice, I'll explain that it is a popular kids game in Japan that has no current illustration to explain it on Commons. You seem to be tagging a lot of my images, even not AI ones, do you have an issue with me and are just trying to be aggressive? A little confused. The world is a big place, stop trying to limit knowledge, and work with us to expand it. Cheers, Nesnad (talk) 12:05, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
- Don’t talk down to me. Dronebogus (talk) 14:27, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
- 1) I'm not? You said you didn't understand the topic when it was clearly written in the description; if you know it already and feel I was talking down by explaining it, why did you ask? 2) Are you threatening me? 3) I don't understand your aggressiveness. Nesnad (talk) 08:18, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
- Examples where it sounds like you are talking down to me:
I thought it was clear so didn't mention it.
sounds condescending.It illustrates 押し競饅頭, as it says in the file description.
Suddenly switching to a language I don’t understand is rude.If you can't understand that, it's not my fault.
seems downright insulting.The world isn't about everything needing to be in English
stating the obvious as if I didn’t already know that.To play nice, I'll explain that[…]
condescending.The world is a big place, stop trying to limit knowledge, and work with us to expand it.
dismissive and acting superior. Dronebogus (talk) 13:38, 15 May 2026 (UTC) - Oh, no. You were absolutely talking down to him. You don't need to mention how it's entirely Dronebogus' fault if he didn't get it, you didn't need to say you were playing nice by giving vital context, and definitely don't accuse others of limiting knowledge. I'd get pretty aggro too if this were directed towards me. EnvironmentalDoor (talk) 15:40, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
- Examples where it sounds like you are talking down to me:
- Perhaphs I have let previous interactions with Dronebogus impact this interaction, but it was not my intent to talk down. It's simply a statement of fact. S/he said I didn't say what topic when it clearly says what topic in the description. Further, s/he says things like it is "rude to switch languages" which is illogical. How do I know what languages anyone speaks? I think trying to flip this as me being aggressive is silly. I'm just responding, and I think people need to stop being so aggressive on this site, just share knowledge with each other instead of acting all weird about silly little policy details and what not. The root of this is Dronebogus thinking the world revolves around their understanding of it, just because this topic is new to Dronebogus or others, doesn't mean that nobody wants to illustrate the topic. The world is vast and full of many cultures and people. I've had that issue with Dronebogus before and I guess that influenced my words if they seemed rough, not intended that way at all, and instead I feel it from the other direction. Nesnad (talk) 11:47, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
Further, s/he says things like it is "rude to switch languages" which is illogical.
no, arbitrarily changing to Japanese in an English conversation is confusing and inconsiderate.How do I know what languages anyone speaks?
I have a babel box on my user page that says I speak English and nothing else.The root of this is Dronebogus thinking the world revolves around their understanding of it
Besides being, once again, condescending, this is obviously not true. The root of this is me seeing an unused AI image and nominating it for deletion and you acting like I’m stupid because I asked what this was. Despite you keep trying to play the “the world doesn’t revolve around your culture” card, you are acting like it’s ridiculous for me to be confused by an illustration of a game that is obscure outside of Japanese culture. Dronebogus (talk) 17:14, 17 May 2026 (UTC)- If you feel talked down to, that's on you and your own personal feelings. And I find it weird you find it "rude" to use a language besides English, that's also pretty close minded. Learn some more languages, expand your world. I've said and will repeat, I am not attempting to talk down to you. If you can't accept that then maybe you are making that up in your mind as a way to deflect from legitimate criticism of you being culturally narrow minded. For example calling Japanese culture obscure? Maybe in your world Japan is a small part of your reality, but not everyone shares that world. Earth is a big place. This image depicts something that is a very common cultural part of growing up in Japan. Less common these days because of cellphones and other digital things though, of course, all the more important reason to have ways to represent and preserve it. You shouldn't go around trying to delete everything that just doesn't fit into your view of what the world is. Nesnad (talk) 18:20, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
- You are completely misconstruing every single thing I said. I said it was rude to use a language other than English with a monolingual English speaker. I am not saying Japanese culture is obscure; I’m saying this aspect of Japanese culture is obscure outside of Japan. Dronebogus (talk) 20:36, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
- Why on earth would it be rude to use a language besides English? For one, I don't stalk people I interact with on here so I have no idea what languages they speak and also even if you don't speak a language it shouldn't be rude to use another language, especially when it was important to the topic. If anything, only speaking one language is rude. Why do you have to belittle anything outside of your life as obscure or rude or whatever? I'm kind of frustrated. You didn't even try to explore if this was useful or not, you just threw on a delete tag because it is not in your own personal experience. Sadly I think other monolingual Wikipedians might see things your way too. Sometimes I feel like Wiki makes an echo chamber. Once again, I do not look down on you, I'm just befuddled by your behavior. Nesnad (talk) 22:08, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
- I don’t know why I have to keep explaining that I’m not belittling anything because it’s outside of my experience or offended by the mere use of a language I don’t speak. You a say you are frustrated; if you got an “explanation” of something that has གལ་ཆེ་བའི་ཚིག། in a language and script you don’t speak with no context as to what it said or meant, wouldn’t you be frustrated? Dronebogus (talk) 22:29, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
- Nope. Not in the slightest. We live in the 21st century. It took me less than 3 seconds to read your "important words" even though Dzongkha isn't a language I know personally. If we were talking in one language and you completely switched to another language as a way to avoid talking with me, that would be weird. But if you need to point out something relevant to our topic of conversation, I wouldn't care at all if you added another language to the mix. It could even make our discussion richer, because not everything can be said in English. But that's the root of our problem maybe, you think everyone in the world sees the world the same way you do. I come from a multilingual background, you apparently come from a monolingual background. I'm not better because of that, we are equals-- human value of course isn't based on language, but that does make us see the world differently apparently. It's OK to see the world differently. Don't have to go around thinking your way is the only way though. Nesnad (talk) 06:01, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
- You need to be more tolerant of Dronebogus. You apply your own ill-fitting standards to him, and then get mad when he reacts in a way you don't anticipate of yourself. Even now, you accuse him of being small minded with that final sentence. How hard is it to adapt to other sensibilities? EnvironmentalDoor (talk) 06:51, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
- Can't that be said for either of you? If I am not fitting your standards why is it I who needs to change but not either of you? I think anyone who thinks foreign languages are rude is small minded, that's my view of the world. I don't think they are bad, of course not, but it is in my view small-minded. Nesnad (talk) 07:35, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
- You need to be more tolerant of Dronebogus. You apply your own ill-fitting standards to him, and then get mad when he reacts in a way you don't anticipate of yourself. Even now, you accuse him of being small minded with that final sentence. How hard is it to adapt to other sensibilities? EnvironmentalDoor (talk) 06:51, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
- Nope. Not in the slightest. We live in the 21st century. It took me less than 3 seconds to read your "important words" even though Dzongkha isn't a language I know personally. If we were talking in one language and you completely switched to another language as a way to avoid talking with me, that would be weird. But if you need to point out something relevant to our topic of conversation, I wouldn't care at all if you added another language to the mix. It could even make our discussion richer, because not everything can be said in English. But that's the root of our problem maybe, you think everyone in the world sees the world the same way you do. I come from a multilingual background, you apparently come from a monolingual background. I'm not better because of that, we are equals-- human value of course isn't based on language, but that does make us see the world differently apparently. It's OK to see the world differently. Don't have to go around thinking your way is the only way though. Nesnad (talk) 06:01, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
- I don’t know why I have to keep explaining that I’m not belittling anything because it’s outside of my experience or offended by the mere use of a language I don’t speak. You a say you are frustrated; if you got an “explanation” of something that has གལ་ཆེ་བའི་ཚིག། in a language and script you don’t speak with no context as to what it said or meant, wouldn’t you be frustrated? Dronebogus (talk) 22:29, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
- Why on earth would it be rude to use a language besides English? For one, I don't stalk people I interact with on here so I have no idea what languages they speak and also even if you don't speak a language it shouldn't be rude to use another language, especially when it was important to the topic. If anything, only speaking one language is rude. Why do you have to belittle anything outside of your life as obscure or rude or whatever? I'm kind of frustrated. You didn't even try to explore if this was useful or not, you just threw on a delete tag because it is not in your own personal experience. Sadly I think other monolingual Wikipedians might see things your way too. Sometimes I feel like Wiki makes an echo chamber. Once again, I do not look down on you, I'm just befuddled by your behavior. Nesnad (talk) 22:08, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
- You are completely misconstruing every single thing I said. I said it was rude to use a language other than English with a monolingual English speaker. I am not saying Japanese culture is obscure; I’m saying this aspect of Japanese culture is obscure outside of Japan. Dronebogus (talk) 20:36, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
- If you feel talked down to, that's on you and your own personal feelings. And I find it weird you find it "rude" to use a language besides English, that's also pretty close minded. Learn some more languages, expand your world. I've said and will repeat, I am not attempting to talk down to you. If you can't accept that then maybe you are making that up in your mind as a way to deflect from legitimate criticism of you being culturally narrow minded. For example calling Japanese culture obscure? Maybe in your world Japan is a small part of your reality, but not everyone shares that world. Earth is a big place. This image depicts something that is a very common cultural part of growing up in Japan. Less common these days because of cellphones and other digital things though, of course, all the more important reason to have ways to represent and preserve it. You shouldn't go around trying to delete everything that just doesn't fit into your view of what the world is. Nesnad (talk) 18:20, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
- 1) I'm not? You said you didn't understand the topic when it was clearly written in the description; if you know it already and feel I was talking down by explaining it, why did you ask? 2) Are you threatening me? 3) I don't understand your aggressiveness. Nesnad (talk) 08:18, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
- Don’t talk down to me. Dronebogus (talk) 14:27, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
